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Act gives debtors only 60 days to come up with proposals

October 21, 2009

By Keith Ross


There are about half a million South Africans who cannot cope with their debt and are in need of counselling and financial restructuring, say the professionals close to the problem.

At the moment about 115 000 have applied for debt counselling and the number is increasing by 9 000 a month.

"Our estimate is that there are about 500 000 people who should be applying for debt counselling at this time," said Paul Slot, an executive member of the Debt Counsellors' Association.

Slot said statistics showed that 17.5 million South African consumers had credit agreements, of which 7.2 million were three months or more in arrears. "So there is a large number of people who are battling at the moment."

He gave this assessment when taking part in the SAfm Radio discussion programme, the After Eight Debate, on the status of the debt counselling and restructuring system.

The debate was held in light of an extensive survey of debt counsellors and credit providers conducted by the University of Pretoria's Law Clinic.

Slot said some people were in serious debt at the moment because of factors beyond their control.

"If they work in an environment where there is down time, or they have been retrenched, it is not their fault," he said. "But some people simply have too much debt."

He said most consumers who applied for debt counselling were middle-income people, who had about 10 credit agreements on average.

Planned

These people were in arrears on their payments, largely because they had not planned properly. "Less than 10 percent of people actually have a firm budget. That is the starting point of the problem."


Slot said consumers who came for debt counselling were highly stressed and wanted a plan to get them out of their predicament.

The debt counsellor would do the necessary assessment and the process should be completed quickly. "They have 60 days in terms of the act to complete this."

If it was not completed, the matter then had to be referred to court.

"If the process is not completed, the stress level of the consumer is just perpetuated and it just carries on. The consumer is still phoned by credit providers."

He said the consumer felt threatened even though the credit providers could not take legal action for 60 days.

"After the 60 days, if the consumer is not paying and you do not have a court date, the credit provider can terminate that debt review."

The debt restructuring process took time and there was a need to speed up as much as possible, said a second member of the debating panel, Makgauta Mphahlele, chief executive of the National Debt Mediation Association (NDMA).

She said her association had been formed by credit providers in an effort to bring all parties together and agree on a uniform restructuring process. Mphahlele agreed that the average consumer had about 10 credit providers.

"If the debt counsellor had to negotiate individually with all 10, the process would take longer. So the NDMA was established to say credit providers must agree on a set of restructuring rules so that when applied properly... they should quickly be able to accept the proposal."
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15 Weeks ago Sean wrote :
Agreed- Some consumers have to grow up -I believe that only 25% of the debtors on debt counselling are actually paying. This is creating a frightening iceberg,A potentially good system being abused by consumers taking a chance
15 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
All credit users are grown up consumers that must take responsibility for their own actions. Stop putting the blame on the credit providers. What is now happening is that people make debt, run for debt review, and think everything is OK. The debt counsellor is another link in the chain that now also have to make money from you. Grow up and make wise decisions, not on impulse!
15 Weeks ago Nikelwa Goxo wrote :
Very familiar... here is the seed...sowing in famine,yes Dr Joe. Here is the seed Malachi 3:1. I am the Lord,and i do not change. Malachi 3:10...Bring all into the storehouse,so there will be food in my house. if you do, see if I won't open the windows of heaven for you. I will pour out a blessing so great you won't have enough room to take it in! Try it! Put me to the test! Your crops will be abundant, for i will guradthem from INSECTS & DISEASE. Your grapes will not fall from the vinebefore they are ripe. The good news is that GOD wants you to prosper,even during severe economic depressions. GOD does not change. The world will tell you,you are spewing GOD rubbish. The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. Have you tested GOD and His promises?
15 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
No we don't need professional advice, we need wise men.
15 Weeks ago Nikelwa wrote :
Well said Mark, you see the invisible. U see more than 3 dimensional. People,there is more to anything than what meets the eye. It's not only x,y,z...there's sigma, the alpha, the omega,the thetor,the chi,blah,blah,blah A slave to my appetite. A slave to my void. A slave to my desire. A slave to my salary/income. A slave to my wants and wants not. Simple interest/compound interest...bank charges/no bank charges...they are out to catch you...wake up and smell the coffee. Why change your phone,when your old one is working?
15 Weeks ago Dr Joe wrote :
Well Nikelwa Goxo, very few people - I mean very - will understand what you have just said. This is superior truth, need I say that requires Spiritual sharpness to grasp. I do get you. Sowing in Famine... does that sound familiar. Genesis again!
15 Weeks ago Fairminded Blonde, Cape Town wrote :
The time to penalize those who tempted people into committing themselves to the acquiring of unaffordable luxuries, while knowing full well that the clients could barely afford it, has arrived. A thorough examination of the purchaser's creditworthiness status at the time of the transaction should be instituted by law. If it is then found that positive creditworthiness was not apparent at the time of the transaction, and that the financier or lender was aware of this, then the latter must be penalized for his or her having approved of the loan. I am not opting for unfair treatment, but definitely for, at very least, the sharing of the negative effects brought about by the risk-laden transaction. The rich, cruelly exploitative minorities have, since time immemorial, been living like kings in the lap of luxury off the sweat and toil of the majorities, who are expected to live on faith, hope and charity! This time has reached its apex. The time to live and let live has arrived: and if you don't believe it, then you are that fool that believes there is no GOD!!! - Extend the act limit to 120 days!
15 Weeks ago Nikelwa Goxo wrote :
Still on Genesis 41, go read it. And Joseph told Pharaoh,that Egypt would enjoy 7 years of great abundance,followed by 7 years of famine. He told Pharaoh. Remember Joseph was a lowly, but wise and humble person. A prisoner, falsely accused, by Pharaor's dubious wife. What did he mean? Save during the good years,so that people would have food during lean years. But our politicians and economic wise people don't read the Word. So, they have missed the whole point, You actually need to save for the lean years! Our leaders should have been telling the nation to stop borrowing and start saving. The government should have put its own house in order.blah,blah,blah... Robert, South Africa will tell you...we don't want to hear your god rubbishxxxxxChickens are coming home to roost.... we can still learn from Joseph's economic management system.Here comes the fry
15 Weeks ago Nikelwa Goxo wrote :
We need a Joseph to manage the economy of the country...alll politicians and those in charge of the Reserve bank should be made to read Genesis 41,before taking office. The economic famine that grips the nation could have been avoided if those in charge had the humility to learn from Joseph. Pharaoh had had a dream of seven fat cows being eaten by seven lean cows. None of Pharaoh's wise men could tell him what the dream meant, But Joseph could. Now, the fat cows have been eaten. The lean years and debt are here. All credit goes to Robert Morley, a brother in Christ. South Africa,wake up! Let him who has ears, hear...him who has eyes see. They have eyes, they look but they don't see. They listen, but they don't hear.
15 Weeks ago Dr Joe wrote :
Mark, well said. I also wish people could realize that Credit Cards are no different from Loan Sharks. They just do it legally. But credit cards are bad bad news. This is the most expensive way of loaning money, unless of course you can pay all of it before you are wagged with their ungodly interest rates. Come on people wake up and dump them credit cards. Please. This is money you don't have.
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